I am thinking of homeschooling...what are your experiences?
My child is 6 months old. I am a certified elementary school teacher in Pennsylvania. My exposure to the education system has made me realize that there are too many flaws in it to guarantee my gifted son the education he deserves. I have mixed feelings about this (naturally, since I am a certified school teacher.) My son is very social, and I fear that he will not have the required social interaction to form a full social life. Also, although my educational background is diverse and, in fact, I am certified to teach six areas of instruction (including English, Social Studies, Music, and French), I fear that my expertise in the areas of math and science is lacking. Don't forget...I have an adorable little genius on my hands!!! With regard to enrichment, the advantage is that I am a musician and my husband is a chess master, so we would have additional time to share our beloved pastimes with our son. However, we are not athletes, and he may miss out on organized sports, for example. There are pros and cons.... Honestly, my reluctance to vaccinate has helped me land in this situation. Of late, my discovery of all the carcinogenic chemicals and metals in vaccines, the frequency of horrible side effects, and the uncertainty about their efficacy (i.e. pertussis) has made me distrustful of authority in general. When I think of my son sitting in school, being pressured by a school nurse or goaded by his peers about why he is not vaccinated, I get very upset. To me, this issue is just a symbol of why I find the idea of public school distasteful when it comes to developing my son's true potential (and not having his intelligence and sweet personality destroyed!), but then again, it is also a very real concern. Has anyone found themselves in a similar boat...distrustful of authority and wanting the best for their child(ren)? How did you homeschool? Did you almost homeschool and decide against it, in the end? Why? If you did homeschool, how did you keep your child connected to the outside world? Actually, I live in a major metropolitan area (Delaware Valley- Philadelphia), so there are lots of children's events. I am just wondering about people's individual experiences. Thanks!
Home Schooling - 6 Answers
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There are many certified teachers who homeschool their own children, in large part because they know what education should be and how far public schools are from that. So, you are not alone.... I was homeschooled for part of my elementary years due to family travel. I loved it and decided that it was the best form of education and wanted it for my own children long before I had any. While my oldest was a baby, I researched homeschooling laws in my state, researched different methods of homeschooling, curriculum options, etc. I joined homeschooling support groups online and then ones that met locally, to find out more about how others homeschooled. And I made a list of our reasons for homeschooling--I wanted to be sure that I was sure of our reasons for homeschooling so that if I ever got burned out and started to doubt, I'd have something to look back on and remind me of our reasons for doing this. (So far, I've not needed the list. Having a spouse who's still in the classroom has done wonders to keep us motivated to not want our children there.) As for not being sure of yourself in certain subjects, you'll learn a lot along the way. As you teach basic math ideas to your young child, you'll get a better foundation in math and may surprise yourself when it comes time to teach higher level topics. Or you can always hire a tutor, or find a co-op class, or trade some teaching duties with another parent--there are ways to still make it work. As for keeping children connected with the outside world, you may find the problem is rather knowing when to draw the line and stay home. At least that's the problem that a lot of homeschoolers we know have. We've belonged to a few homeschool support groups, meet with them regularly at a local park, gone on a variety of fieldtrips and outings and events with them. The kids have been heavily involved in programs at the local public library. They've taken martial arts in a program devised for homeschoolers and piano lessons with another homeschooling family. Others are heavily involved in religious activities, or scouts, or 4-H, or organized sports, or chess clubs, or whatever interests their family. There are lots of options out there, especially for those in major metropolitan areas. Given your family's interests, you might eventually even start a chess club for homeschoolers. Or offer music lessons and get other children in the home that way, as well as supplement the family income. Good luck.
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I'm homeschooled and I hate it... =/
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You asked for experiences so I'll give you our experience. My husband and I also work for the school system in combination jobs of custodian, cafeteria worker and school bus driver. We see how different school is from what it was when we were students. That was one of the reasons we decided to home school. The other reason is that our son is gifted, but not in academics. It was a waste of time for him to be in a schoolroom for 6 hours a day. It wasted his time and the teacher's time. We debated the home school question from the time he was in 3rd grade until he was in the 8th grade. One thing that helped us make up our minds was the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing the same way and expecting different results. We began homeschooling at the first of the 8th grade after 4 weeks of public school. . I am glad we chose to homeschool and wish we had made the choice earlier in his education. There are many styles of homeschooling. Relaxed-eclectic works well for our family. We are all learning and it is all free with our internet connection. There are so many free resources. There is no reason for anyone to be uneducated in this modern day of technology.
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Well I unschool, but my parents are really supportive of my choices. Regular high school just didn't work for me. Most of the teachers just don't listen to the students and if your opinion is different you're told you're wrong. I've never had to study for anything in my life but my school didn't put new kids in honors classes because they would be "too hard". So I left. I've played sports (fencing!), joined clubs, hung out with schooled friends. It's not hard to "socialize" since most kids want to hang out with other kids. I am completely against compulsory schooling and I think a lot of kids could benefit from some kind of homeschool. I'm 16 and I'm applying to college, I know that wouldn't be happening if I had stayed in school. http://lowryhousepublishers.com/TeenageLiberationHandbook.htm (this one is mainly for teenagers, but I think everyone should read it) http://sandradodd.com/howto/precisely
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The first thing you'll need to do is unlearn all that teacher training (you'll hear this repeatedly from ex-teachers who home educate) because it just doesn't apply. Second, try not to 'hot-house' your son just because you've decided at only 6 months old that he's a genius. If he is, or even if he isn't, pushing isn't effective. You really don't need to worry about how good you are at maths and science, that's the school model speaking, where the teacher has to know and present their knowledge to the student. Instead think of yourself as a facilitator, providing resources and helping your child follow his own learning journey. The analogy has been made, and it's a good one, that educating a child is like growing a plant. You can't make a plant grow, all you can ever do is provide the best possible conditions for it to do that which is in it's nature to do. Children learn, it's what they're 'programmed' for, it's a major part of being human. Keeping your child connected to the 'outside world' is actually a lot easier when you don't send them to school. My daughter has music, French and Yoga lessons, regular socials with the local home ed group as well as one-off outtings and play dates. She is out and about in the community, chatting to adults as often as other children most days. All this makes for a much more varied and IMO healthy socialization than she would get at school.
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I also went the teaching route in college (double major in art and ed, minor in comp sci) and live in a major metro area (Chicago), so perhaps I can help you here! :D First off, take everything you were taught in college and toss it. Seriously. I know it sounds crazy, especially after spending all those years at the university and racking up all that tuition, but the bulk of it just doesn't apply to homeschooling. Let me explain: - You're a teacher to one student instead of dozens, and you know every little thing about said student "walking in the door". As a homeschool teacher, year after year, grade after grade, you will /still/ know every minute detail about your student: -- what is going on at home -- to whom your student prefers to work and play with -- what your student's allergies are (and other medical history facts!) -- where your student excels (and needs assistance) -- and a million other points!! - You know the smell of your student's sweet head when he was born (and will never forget it!); you have so many connections any outside teacher will ever possess. Those maternal connections will be your inner guidance and strength, and on the most stressful days, believe me, you will really be happy to have them! Public school teachers could only hope for a sliver of that ;) - Even at just six months old, you already have a gist of his preferences and learning styles (watcher, listener, doer- or a combination of such!). Very, very few traditionally schooled children are fortunate enough to have teachers who can swing all the differences without dumbing down to the least common denominator. - You may have also discovered when your student's most receptive time of the day is. Now, even on the rare chance that time will remain consistent once he reaches two, five, nine, twelve, sixteen and beyond, it may or may not be what meshes with a traditional school. A sick day is never going to interrupt the homeschooled student, because there really is no "catching up"; study time can be anytime! Now as far as whether or not your son is "gifted" is not important, because even Albert Einstein had his weak points. I'm not being condescending here, just neutral. What's important is you (as your son's teacher) allow your student to blossom, explore and excel in whatever it is your student is truly passionate about, even if that "it" is not what you had in mind. Of course, I don't see anything wrong with having kids "take two bites to make Mom happy". If he doesn't like something now, maybe reintroduce whatever it is at a later time. Maybe your hopes of your student becoming a neurosurgeon won't happen, but what teacher (or mother!) wouldn't be proud of their pupil (son) growing up to be an executive architect or high level politician? ;) We all have our own places in the world. Regarding the distrust of authority, I have always taught my son to question everything and have never EVER used the phrase "Because I said so!" I feel it is degrading to say that to anyone, be it a child or an employee, because I know I personally do not like it. If my former boss told me that, and I thought he was doing something illegal (say cooking the books), you're damn right I'm going to question what he asked of me. If I don't, I just might go to jail along with him as an accessory! It is therefore my belief I should not expect my son to blindly follow my rules. After all, I want him to be an independent thinker, and not a sheeple ;) HOWEVER, there's not a thing wrong with a firm "NO!", but I have always backed it up with a reason, with pre-determined consequences for disobeying. "NO! Gennn-tle..." really does sink in, especially if a toddler has seen what happens when something falls down and breaks. Even a "NO! HOT!!!" is a better deterrent from touching a hot oven than just a plain old "No!" Down the road, you'll be glad you went this route when that "Why do I have to learn this?" question comes along, if you do not go the unschooling route, of course. It'll already be a given to your student that you'll have a reason to back it up, and not just a "Because I said so!" Now as far as hanging out with other kids goes, you're very fortunate to live where you do, because you have so many options available to you. At six months old, your son may already be familiar with some of the other babies he sees from his stroller down at the playground. Summer is right around the corner, and that's just in time to start crawling around on a blanket with another while you exchange phone numbers/email addresses with the other parents while hammering out some play dates. Even if all the other babies end up going to traditional schools in a few years, your son can still play with the neighborhood kids when they get home. During the day, your son can be spending time with a homeschool group, many of which are readily available online! Then there's always a field trip as just you two. Make the local library your f
Sunday, June 5, 2011
Saturday, June 4, 2011
Do these colleges give good money?
Do these colleges give good money?
For people who attended or know if these colleges give good money like financial aid or scholarships. I have a 3.8 unweigthed gpa, and above 4.0 weighted. I have an 1850 SAT score, I take full I.B., over 200 hours of volunteer service, 2 different jobs, sports throughout highschool, etcc.. I was just wondering if I would get good money from any of these schools.. Pennsylvania State University--University Park University Park, PA New York University New York, NY Yeshiva University New York, NY George Washington University Washington, DC University of Maryland--College Park College Park, MD Boston University Boston, MA Fordham University New York, NY University of Connecticut Storrs, CT Northeastern University Boston, MA SUNY--Stony Brook Stony Brook, NY University of Miami Coral Gables, FL Drexel University Philadelphia, PA Boston College Chestnut Hill, MA Lehigh University Bethlehem, PA
Higher Education (University +) - 2 Answers
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penn state - no nyu - ABSOLUTELY NOT; easily one of the stingiest schools in the country yeshiva - possibly if you're above average gwu - doubt it stony brook - if you get into the honors college, you get free tuition. there are other scholarships for a few thousand a year drexel - if you're at the top of their applicant pool bc - also stingy don't know about the rest. i would try to raise my SAT score to help qualify for aid money. also apply to tulane early action, as they give out hefty merit scholarships
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Ask the colleges yourself. They will know what aid they give to different students.
For people who attended or know if these colleges give good money like financial aid or scholarships. I have a 3.8 unweigthed gpa, and above 4.0 weighted. I have an 1850 SAT score, I take full I.B., over 200 hours of volunteer service, 2 different jobs, sports throughout highschool, etcc.. I was just wondering if I would get good money from any of these schools.. Pennsylvania State University--University Park University Park, PA New York University New York, NY Yeshiva University New York, NY George Washington University Washington, DC University of Maryland--College Park College Park, MD Boston University Boston, MA Fordham University New York, NY University of Connecticut Storrs, CT Northeastern University Boston, MA SUNY--Stony Brook Stony Brook, NY University of Miami Coral Gables, FL Drexel University Philadelphia, PA Boston College Chestnut Hill, MA Lehigh University Bethlehem, PA
Higher Education (University +) - 2 Answers
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penn state - no nyu - ABSOLUTELY NOT; easily one of the stingiest schools in the country yeshiva - possibly if you're above average gwu - doubt it stony brook - if you get into the honors college, you get free tuition. there are other scholarships for a few thousand a year drexel - if you're at the top of their applicant pool bc - also stingy don't know about the rest. i would try to raise my SAT score to help qualify for aid money. also apply to tulane early action, as they give out hefty merit scholarships
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Ask the colleges yourself. They will know what aid they give to different students.
Thursday, June 2, 2011
How does a mentoring group cover themselves legally?
How does a mentoring group cover themselves legally?
I'm a member of the Philadelphia Immigrant Mentoring Collaborative, a new nonprofit started by students at the University of Pennsylvania. We offer mentoring sessions to high school students, especially those with an immigrant background, in various academic subjects. We would like to make sure we wouldn't get sued by our clients if something happens, so with whatever common sense knowledge we had, we pieced together this permission slip. We would really like for a lawyer to look over our permission slip and make sure we've covered ourselves legally. We just started this summer, and as of now we are not incorporated or registered or anything like that. Thanks for your help! This is our slip so far.: Mentee Permission Slip Dear Student (and parent or guardian, if student is under 18): Welcome to the Philadelphia Immigrant Mentoring Collaborative (PIMC)! We offer immigrant students tutoring in conversational English, as well as school subjects, and help in navigating grade school and planning for college. Our program aims to help new Philadelphians adapt to the American school system and gain self-confidence and academic success in the process. By signing below, you (in this document, "you" refers to the student, and the student's parent or guardian, if the student is under 18) agree to meet with one or more assigned mentors from the University of Pennsylvania and/or other Philadelphia area colleges at least once a week at a public space, such as the __________ on XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX or the __________ on XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, at an agreed upon time of the student's and his/her assigned mentor's choosing. You agree that the student will be participating in a tutoring session organized by the Philadelphia Immigrant Mentoring Collaborative and that if the student cannot attend a meeting, the student must notify his/her assigned mentor in advance. You also agree that the student will not hold the PIMC, any of its affiliates, including agents, employees, volunteers, or sponsors, liable for any accidents, injuries, or harm incurred at any time while participating in this activity. You acknowledge that the student and/or his/her assigned mentor can opt out of this program at any time. In addition, you acknowledge that at any time, the student may be assigned a different mentor with subsequent notice. You also agree that you will review any new versions of this permission slip as soon as they are made available to you. If at any time the student, or parent or guardian (if the student is under 18) would no longer like to participate in the program, please notify us at XXXXXXXXXXX or at one of the following phone numbers: Mandarin: ____________ at (XXX) XXX-XXXX, Cantonese: ____________ at (XXX) XXX-XXXX, or English: ____________ at (XXX) XXX-XXXX. If you have any questions, please email us at XXXXXXXXXXX, or contact one of our organizers at the above listed phone numbers. Thank you, Philadelphia Immigrant Mentoring Collaborative Student Name __________________________________________________ ___________ Student Signature ___________________________________ Date ________________ Parent/Guardian Name (if student is under 18) __________________________________ Parent/Guardian Signature (if student is under 18) ________________ Date ___________
Law & Ethics - 3 Answers
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Since the University is mentioned in this waiver, you should run it by your dean.
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First off, if the mentor has changed, why would you give subsequent (after the fact) notice of a change?
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Wow, that is the most complete, succinct, and utterly unenforceable bunch of pablum I have ever read. It means absolutely nothing, compels no one to do anything, and gives no consideration, whatsoever. It is not a contract (agreement), in any sense of the word. In order to be binding, there must be an offer in consideration (I am willing to do/give something if you will do/give something). If either party can walk out at any time without repercussion, then it is not a contract. It also doesn't spell out what the consequences are to either party for non-performance (termination from program, termination from employment, etc). If you are offering your services for free, then you don't need a legal binder, at all. If you are charging people for this, then this agreement would never hold up in court and anyone could demand his money back. If you are charging money, then any agreement/statement/contract, whatever you want to call it, must contain the obligations of each party, the consideration paid by each party (money, tutoring, books, translation services, whatever), examples of breach, consequences of breach, time frames, expectations (you will learn conversational English with __years), etc. This form addresses none of those things. Spend a couple of hundred dollars and get it done right by a lawyer.
I'm a member of the Philadelphia Immigrant Mentoring Collaborative, a new nonprofit started by students at the University of Pennsylvania. We offer mentoring sessions to high school students, especially those with an immigrant background, in various academic subjects. We would like to make sure we wouldn't get sued by our clients if something happens, so with whatever common sense knowledge we had, we pieced together this permission slip. We would really like for a lawyer to look over our permission slip and make sure we've covered ourselves legally. We just started this summer, and as of now we are not incorporated or registered or anything like that. Thanks for your help! This is our slip so far.: Mentee Permission Slip Dear Student (and parent or guardian, if student is under 18): Welcome to the Philadelphia Immigrant Mentoring Collaborative (PIMC)! We offer immigrant students tutoring in conversational English, as well as school subjects, and help in navigating grade school and planning for college. Our program aims to help new Philadelphians adapt to the American school system and gain self-confidence and academic success in the process. By signing below, you (in this document, "you" refers to the student, and the student's parent or guardian, if the student is under 18) agree to meet with one or more assigned mentors from the University of Pennsylvania and/or other Philadelphia area colleges at least once a week at a public space, such as the __________ on XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX or the __________ on XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, at an agreed upon time of the student's and his/her assigned mentor's choosing. You agree that the student will be participating in a tutoring session organized by the Philadelphia Immigrant Mentoring Collaborative and that if the student cannot attend a meeting, the student must notify his/her assigned mentor in advance. You also agree that the student will not hold the PIMC, any of its affiliates, including agents, employees, volunteers, or sponsors, liable for any accidents, injuries, or harm incurred at any time while participating in this activity. You acknowledge that the student and/or his/her assigned mentor can opt out of this program at any time. In addition, you acknowledge that at any time, the student may be assigned a different mentor with subsequent notice. You also agree that you will review any new versions of this permission slip as soon as they are made available to you. If at any time the student, or parent or guardian (if the student is under 18) would no longer like to participate in the program, please notify us at XXXXXXXXXXX or at one of the following phone numbers: Mandarin: ____________ at (XXX) XXX-XXXX, Cantonese: ____________ at (XXX) XXX-XXXX, or English: ____________ at (XXX) XXX-XXXX. If you have any questions, please email us at XXXXXXXXXXX, or contact one of our organizers at the above listed phone numbers. Thank you, Philadelphia Immigrant Mentoring Collaborative Student Name __________________________________________________ ___________ Student Signature ___________________________________ Date ________________ Parent/Guardian Name (if student is under 18) __________________________________ Parent/Guardian Signature (if student is under 18) ________________ Date ___________
Law & Ethics - 3 Answers
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Since the University is mentioned in this waiver, you should run it by your dean.
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First off, if the mentor has changed, why would you give subsequent (after the fact) notice of a change?
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Wow, that is the most complete, succinct, and utterly unenforceable bunch of pablum I have ever read. It means absolutely nothing, compels no one to do anything, and gives no consideration, whatsoever. It is not a contract (agreement), in any sense of the word. In order to be binding, there must be an offer in consideration (I am willing to do/give something if you will do/give something). If either party can walk out at any time without repercussion, then it is not a contract. It also doesn't spell out what the consequences are to either party for non-performance (termination from program, termination from employment, etc). If you are offering your services for free, then you don't need a legal binder, at all. If you are charging people for this, then this agreement would never hold up in court and anyone could demand his money back. If you are charging money, then any agreement/statement/contract, whatever you want to call it, must contain the obligations of each party, the consideration paid by each party (money, tutoring, books, translation services, whatever), examples of breach, consequences of breach, time frames, expectations (you will learn conversational English with __years), etc. This form addresses none of those things. Spend a couple of hundred dollars and get it done right by a lawyer.
Monday, May 30, 2011
Black& Hispanic kids told to leave white country club swimming pool why was racism directed at these babies?
Black& Hispanic kids told to leave white country club swimming pool why was racism directed at these babies?
HUNTINGDON VALLEY, Pa. รข€“ The head of a private suburban Philadelphia swim club on Friday defended its cancellation of the memberships of dozens of minority children, saying safety, not racism, was the reason. "We deeply regret this whole situation," John Duesler, president of the board of directors of The Valley Club, told reporters Friday afternoon at the entrance to the club in the leafy suburb of Huntingdon Valley. The Creative Steps camp had arranged for 65 mostly black and Hispanic children to swim each Monday afternoon at the club this summer. But director Alethea Wright said that shortly after they arrived for their first visit, some children reported hearing racial comments, and the camp's $1,950 was refunded a few days later. Duesler said the number of children in the shallow section of the pool, many of them unable to swim, convinced officials that there was a problem. "It was definitely an unsafe situation," he said. The club's actions have prompted an investigation by the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission and made headlines across the country. Much of the attention has focused on an earlier statement by Duesler voicing concern that so many children would "change the complexion" or atmosphere of the club, which he acknowledged was "a terrible choice of words." "It was never my intention to imply anything in terms of racial makeup," he said. Duesler said he heard no racial comments from members and that any such remarks did not represent the club's position. Wright, however, said the club knew what size group to expect and had hosted a school group of a similar size a week earlier. She said the comments reported by children and the parents' actions after her group arrived told a different story. "If they're open to membership, why were parents pulling their children out and standing there with their arms crossed?" she said. Meanwhile, the director of another camp that also had its membership canceled said she believes the club's explanation that numbers and not ethnicity was the reason. "It was definitely an overcrowding issue," said Joanne Rosenthal of Storybook Children's Center of northeast Philadelphia. "It was obviously more than they were used to dealing with." Rosenthal said at least half of her 25-member group was made up of racial minorities, and their money was also returned after one visit. But she said she thought the group had been treated "extremely fairly." "It's not a small pool, but two-thirds of it is deep water, which children are not allowed in unless they have passed a deep-water test, so really, only one-third can be used." Rosenthal said. Storybook signed up with the private club because city pools were to be closed this summer because of budget cuts, but the nearby public pool did open after all and the children were swimming there, she said. Wright said several institutions had offered to host the Creative Steps children at their pools for the summer, and she planned to talk to parents to find out where they wanted their children to go. Meanwhile, the state commission has vowed to expedite an investigation after being inundated with calls from all over the country, according to spokeswoman Shannon Powers. "It got bumped to the top of the priority list, so were devoting an extraordinary amount of resources to investigating it," she said. "It's a matter we would like to see resolved quickly." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090710/ap_on_re_us/us_swim_club_minorities
Immigration - 17 Answers
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They aren't babies. They're kids, around 11 or so, it seems to me. Also, why is this in immigration? (Oh, and it is disgusting how they were treated, btw. Racism is stupid)
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if they were babies then there is your answer too young to be there but you question is too long to read too too long
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It's Philly, what do you expect. Some the nation's most racist, bigoted, bitter old white people live there..
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Because they were illegal aliens? What the hell is this doing in Immigration?
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huh? what are your intentions with posting this in the immigration section? dont even think for a second that this justifies what the illegals to to our country. what your post states is only an independent case, and one that is irrelevant for those of us who are against illegals! being against ILLEGAL immigration has nothing to do with race! find something better to do instead of stirring things up on here.
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A PRIVATE CLUB GETS TO MAKE UP ITS RULES AS IT GOES ALONG. ITS A SIMPLE FACT. DOESNT MATTER WHAT THEIR REASON WAS;...SAFETY OR RACISM. THEY GET TO MAKE UP THE RULES.
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That's Horrible and inexcusable. It's Total discrimination. How can people be like this? ** ** WOW... and people give me thumbs down? whats wrong with you? That just goes to show we have a number of racist butt holes here in this section of yahoo answers.
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60 kids from the hood showed up raising hell and ended up getting kicked out. No doubt However this is the stuff that parents get all self righteous about. All those black kids mommas is gonna be going crazy over this screaming racism. All their friends and neighbors chime in, neighborhood hits the street, starts protesting, cops come in. Little incidents like this create tipping points. Race riots! Getcha race riots here!! Get 'em while they're hot!
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Yes! Right! A swim club tries to help out a predominately minority group of kids just so they can throw them out and be called racists! On what planet do things like that happen? If they knew that none of the children could swim the whole problem might of been avoided! This is just bull cr@p and doesn't belong in immigration anyways!
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Of course it was racism. Parents pulling children out of the pool, disgusting but typical. If Riot/Jill/ThatGurl/Bombastic etc etc can post stuff about Hispanics with no mention of legal status then everyone else has the right to do so..
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Sad very sad .This is the reason we have so much trouble in this world.If safety was a issue then this should have been worked out after it was notice but to do this to children is just plain wrong.I believe probably both sides where at fault here.One side didn't see any problem with too many children being in a pool at one time and the other side saw that there where too many but went about solving the problem in the wrong way.Maybe the true reason was for safety but it could have been worked out Im sure.In the end you have children looking at adults acting like fools instead of working together to fix the problem.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats pretty funny but im not Racist but i know all of you will say i am so think whatever you want and i wouldnt be surprised if the people at the pool just got drive byed the next day.
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I live in this area. The article failed to mention that the club also canceled swimming and returned money to two other children's groups,that were predominantly white,because the club could not handle the amount of children coming in. Most of them could not swim and there was not enough staff members to insure every ones safety. Funny that it gets spinned that the only group that was asked not to come back was a minority group when that wasn't the case at all.
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.from the clubs website: The Pool is Filled! Come Enjoy our Great Club Friday, Saturday & Sunday! We Are Now Accepting Credit Cards Online! skin color must not be darker then the darkest tan of our white members!!! Visit Our Secure Online Application Page Here OR Download Our 2009 Full-time Membership App Here or our Part-time Membership App Here! community | facilities | contact | swim team | activities | memberships | staff | rules of operation > blacks and other minorites must agree to use the service entrance near the kitchen.
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This is so dumb. Why didn't they just rotate and have the kids do some other activities at the place? Do they only have a pool? Also why not TEACH these kids how to swim. This sounds like bad planning. They mishandled it and it doesn't sound like it was a racist issue since they did the same to two mostly white groups. Added: They are suing the country club. There are websites to send a letter of protest about this incident. The country club has taken down its website. I doubt that they will be getting any new members... Philadelphia has a lot of non-whites. This kind of stuff would go by unnoticed in middle-America but not in Philadelphia. If they didn't want any minorities they should have never signed the contract with the camps, because they would not be able to screen the campters. I don't agree with that kind of segregation but it is a private club and they can discriminate but it was mean for them to do that to children.
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I agree with lucero, it was mismanagement. they were looking at the dollar signs and not the amount of children and scheduling. If it was racially motivated, they should be shut down and prosecuted. But this does not say one word in the article about any immigration etc... what are you profiling Again.
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I knew it was going to be about money. The black "victims" have already filed litigation. Mostly this story is just funny. I was a lifeguard at a mostly black pool once. The community center kids would fill up the pool. Now this was years ago, the kids were rowdy but all kids are rowdy. This might have been the reason, throwing in 60 kids into a private pool, I'd get out of the pool. I think lawsuits like this are pathetic. Who cares if they are racist? Black people are usually really racist themselves.
HUNTINGDON VALLEY, Pa. รข€“ The head of a private suburban Philadelphia swim club on Friday defended its cancellation of the memberships of dozens of minority children, saying safety, not racism, was the reason. "We deeply regret this whole situation," John Duesler, president of the board of directors of The Valley Club, told reporters Friday afternoon at the entrance to the club in the leafy suburb of Huntingdon Valley. The Creative Steps camp had arranged for 65 mostly black and Hispanic children to swim each Monday afternoon at the club this summer. But director Alethea Wright said that shortly after they arrived for their first visit, some children reported hearing racial comments, and the camp's $1,950 was refunded a few days later. Duesler said the number of children in the shallow section of the pool, many of them unable to swim, convinced officials that there was a problem. "It was definitely an unsafe situation," he said. The club's actions have prompted an investigation by the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission and made headlines across the country. Much of the attention has focused on an earlier statement by Duesler voicing concern that so many children would "change the complexion" or atmosphere of the club, which he acknowledged was "a terrible choice of words." "It was never my intention to imply anything in terms of racial makeup," he said. Duesler said he heard no racial comments from members and that any such remarks did not represent the club's position. Wright, however, said the club knew what size group to expect and had hosted a school group of a similar size a week earlier. She said the comments reported by children and the parents' actions after her group arrived told a different story. "If they're open to membership, why were parents pulling their children out and standing there with their arms crossed?" she said. Meanwhile, the director of another camp that also had its membership canceled said she believes the club's explanation that numbers and not ethnicity was the reason. "It was definitely an overcrowding issue," said Joanne Rosenthal of Storybook Children's Center of northeast Philadelphia. "It was obviously more than they were used to dealing with." Rosenthal said at least half of her 25-member group was made up of racial minorities, and their money was also returned after one visit. But she said she thought the group had been treated "extremely fairly." "It's not a small pool, but two-thirds of it is deep water, which children are not allowed in unless they have passed a deep-water test, so really, only one-third can be used." Rosenthal said. Storybook signed up with the private club because city pools were to be closed this summer because of budget cuts, but the nearby public pool did open after all and the children were swimming there, she said. Wright said several institutions had offered to host the Creative Steps children at their pools for the summer, and she planned to talk to parents to find out where they wanted their children to go. Meanwhile, the state commission has vowed to expedite an investigation after being inundated with calls from all over the country, according to spokeswoman Shannon Powers. "It got bumped to the top of the priority list, so were devoting an extraordinary amount of resources to investigating it," she said. "It's a matter we would like to see resolved quickly." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090710/ap_on_re_us/us_swim_club_minorities
Immigration - 17 Answers
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They aren't babies. They're kids, around 11 or so, it seems to me. Also, why is this in immigration? (Oh, and it is disgusting how they were treated, btw. Racism is stupid)
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if they were babies then there is your answer too young to be there but you question is too long to read too too long
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It's Philly, what do you expect. Some the nation's most racist, bigoted, bitter old white people live there..
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Because they were illegal aliens? What the hell is this doing in Immigration?
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huh? what are your intentions with posting this in the immigration section? dont even think for a second that this justifies what the illegals to to our country. what your post states is only an independent case, and one that is irrelevant for those of us who are against illegals! being against ILLEGAL immigration has nothing to do with race! find something better to do instead of stirring things up on here.
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A PRIVATE CLUB GETS TO MAKE UP ITS RULES AS IT GOES ALONG. ITS A SIMPLE FACT. DOESNT MATTER WHAT THEIR REASON WAS;...SAFETY OR RACISM. THEY GET TO MAKE UP THE RULES.
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That's Horrible and inexcusable. It's Total discrimination. How can people be like this? ** ** WOW... and people give me thumbs down? whats wrong with you? That just goes to show we have a number of racist butt holes here in this section of yahoo answers.
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60 kids from the hood showed up raising hell and ended up getting kicked out. No doubt However this is the stuff that parents get all self righteous about. All those black kids mommas is gonna be going crazy over this screaming racism. All their friends and neighbors chime in, neighborhood hits the street, starts protesting, cops come in. Little incidents like this create tipping points. Race riots! Getcha race riots here!! Get 'em while they're hot!
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Yes! Right! A swim club tries to help out a predominately minority group of kids just so they can throw them out and be called racists! On what planet do things like that happen? If they knew that none of the children could swim the whole problem might of been avoided! This is just bull cr@p and doesn't belong in immigration anyways!
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Of course it was racism. Parents pulling children out of the pool, disgusting but typical. If Riot/Jill/ThatGurl/Bombastic etc etc can post stuff about Hispanics with no mention of legal status then everyone else has the right to do so..
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Sad very sad .This is the reason we have so much trouble in this world.If safety was a issue then this should have been worked out after it was notice but to do this to children is just plain wrong.I believe probably both sides where at fault here.One side didn't see any problem with too many children being in a pool at one time and the other side saw that there where too many but went about solving the problem in the wrong way.Maybe the true reason was for safety but it could have been worked out Im sure.In the end you have children looking at adults acting like fools instead of working together to fix the problem.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats pretty funny but im not Racist but i know all of you will say i am so think whatever you want and i wouldnt be surprised if the people at the pool just got drive byed the next day.
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I live in this area. The article failed to mention that the club also canceled swimming and returned money to two other children's groups,that were predominantly white,because the club could not handle the amount of children coming in. Most of them could not swim and there was not enough staff members to insure every ones safety. Funny that it gets spinned that the only group that was asked not to come back was a minority group when that wasn't the case at all.
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.from the clubs website: The Pool is Filled! Come Enjoy our Great Club Friday, Saturday & Sunday! We Are Now Accepting Credit Cards Online! skin color must not be darker then the darkest tan of our white members!!! Visit Our Secure Online Application Page Here OR Download Our 2009 Full-time Membership App Here or our Part-time Membership App Here! community | facilities | contact | swim team | activities | memberships | staff | rules of operation > blacks and other minorites must agree to use the service entrance near the kitchen.
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This is so dumb. Why didn't they just rotate and have the kids do some other activities at the place? Do they only have a pool? Also why not TEACH these kids how to swim. This sounds like bad planning. They mishandled it and it doesn't sound like it was a racist issue since they did the same to two mostly white groups. Added: They are suing the country club. There are websites to send a letter of protest about this incident. The country club has taken down its website. I doubt that they will be getting any new members... Philadelphia has a lot of non-whites. This kind of stuff would go by unnoticed in middle-America but not in Philadelphia. If they didn't want any minorities they should have never signed the contract with the camps, because they would not be able to screen the campters. I don't agree with that kind of segregation but it is a private club and they can discriminate but it was mean for them to do that to children.
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I agree with lucero, it was mismanagement. they were looking at the dollar signs and not the amount of children and scheduling. If it was racially motivated, they should be shut down and prosecuted. But this does not say one word in the article about any immigration etc... what are you profiling Again.
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I knew it was going to be about money. The black "victims" have already filed litigation. Mostly this story is just funny. I was a lifeguard at a mostly black pool once. The community center kids would fill up the pool. Now this was years ago, the kids were rowdy but all kids are rowdy. This might have been the reason, throwing in 60 kids into a private pool, I'd get out of the pool. I think lawsuits like this are pathetic. Who cares if they are racist? Black people are usually really racist themselves.
Saturday, May 28, 2011
Is this really the message Democrats want to send?
Is this really the message Democrats want to send?
http://www.kyw1060.com/Chester-Upland-Schools-Closed-on-Tuesday/3208151 All schools in the Chester-Upland School District, near Philadelphia, are being closed Tuesday because of a Barrack Obama rally at nearby Widener University. For those not from the area, Chester, Pa. is one of the most economically depressed areas in the United States. A few years ago, when I was on a nearby school board, I saw reports that Chester was one of the 5 worst school districts out of the 500 in Pennsylvania. Why are all students being given the day off because Barrack Obama will be in town? If anyone needs a good education, it's kids from this city. I would understand if they gave a pass to any students who asked off to attend the rally, but why should they give every student off, K through 12? Meerschw... No, it would be no different if it was McCain and I made no claim that it would. I agree that children have the right to be informed & that the rally could be educational. That's why I said I'd understand giving a pass to students who want to attend the rally. I believe that this idea would provide more incentive for students to go, rather than just giving them off & letting them sleep in.
Elections - 5 Answers
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I would be outraged if my children attended that school, and the parents should be.
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If the school is as bad as you say i dont think one day off is going to make it any worse
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But it's ok if McCain were to come, right? Then it wouldn't be an issue- children have the right to be informed of politics and the election. That's what we would say. In my humble opinion, one day isn't too terrible. Kids get school days off for far worse reasons.
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That's indoctrination.
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As a general policy, I am against closing school for the reason you cite: education is so important. The exceptions are if there is legit educational benefit. For example, if the students were required to spend the day studying our election system. If traffic or safety is compromised to the extent that schools must be closed, then I think a rally should be moved.
http://www.kyw1060.com/Chester-Upland-Schools-Closed-on-Tuesday/3208151 All schools in the Chester-Upland School District, near Philadelphia, are being closed Tuesday because of a Barrack Obama rally at nearby Widener University. For those not from the area, Chester, Pa. is one of the most economically depressed areas in the United States. A few years ago, when I was on a nearby school board, I saw reports that Chester was one of the 5 worst school districts out of the 500 in Pennsylvania. Why are all students being given the day off because Barrack Obama will be in town? If anyone needs a good education, it's kids from this city. I would understand if they gave a pass to any students who asked off to attend the rally, but why should they give every student off, K through 12? Meerschw... No, it would be no different if it was McCain and I made no claim that it would. I agree that children have the right to be informed & that the rally could be educational. That's why I said I'd understand giving a pass to students who want to attend the rally. I believe that this idea would provide more incentive for students to go, rather than just giving them off & letting them sleep in.
Elections - 5 Answers
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I would be outraged if my children attended that school, and the parents should be.
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If the school is as bad as you say i dont think one day off is going to make it any worse
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But it's ok if McCain were to come, right? Then it wouldn't be an issue- children have the right to be informed of politics and the election. That's what we would say. In my humble opinion, one day isn't too terrible. Kids get school days off for far worse reasons.
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That's indoctrination.
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As a general policy, I am against closing school for the reason you cite: education is so important. The exceptions are if there is legit educational benefit. For example, if the students were required to spend the day studying our election system. If traffic or safety is compromised to the extent that schools must be closed, then I think a rally should be moved.
Thursday, May 26, 2011
UPenn admissions essay prompt?
UPenn admissions essay prompt?
Benjamin Franklin established the Union Fire Company, the Library Company of Philadelphia, the American Philosophical Society, Pennsylvania Hospital, and, of course, the charity school that evolved into the University of Pennsylvania. As they served the larger community of Philadelphia, each institution in turn formed its own community. I was reading the essay prompt for the University of Pennsylvania and I wasn't sure what it means by "academic communities." I'm pretty sure that "social communities" refers to clubs and organizations and such, but can academic communities include clubs, or is it referring to the different schools at Penn? I appreciate any help. Thank you! Which of the academic communities and social communities that now comprise the University of Pennsylvania are most interesting to you and how will you contribute to them and to the larger Penn community?
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Good question. Before reading this, I just assumed they meant one of the "the Union Fire Company, the Library Company of Philadelphia, the American Philosophical Society, Pennsylvania Hospital, and, of course, the charity school that evolved into the University of Pennsylvania" communities, but now you have placed some doubt in my head. But still I'm inclined to believe they mean one of them, and I think I will base my essay on one of them, probably like the American Philosophical Society because of my interest in philosophy, and just ramble about how great Penn's communities are and how much I could contribute to the Philosophical society. So in answer to your question, I think the academic communities include the things I put in quotes and maybe some other stuff. If you're really curious I would research it further, but if you just want to be able to write a good essay that answers what they're looking for I would just pick one of the communities in quotes and talk about it. The other essay prompt for UPenn was by farther the superior. "You have just completed your 300-page autobiography. Please submit page 217." When I first read that I was at first shocked, then laughed out loud, then seriously considered going to Penn. And that prompt remains one of my greatest reasons in considering Penn, lol. Sorry I don't know of how much help this was to you, but good luck!
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I've been wondering the same thing. I just called the Penn admissions office and asked if they could clarify the question, and he told me: What they really want to know is which aspects are most appealing that draw you to be interested in UPenn, and why are you a good fit for Penn (based on its academic and/or social community). He said that's what they asked in the past--basically, "Why Penn?"-- and we shouldn't stress over the terms they use like "academic and social communities." Really, just how is Penn good for you and how are you good for Penn; the question is a lot more complicated than what they want to know. I also asked if they want us to refer back to the "institutions" they mentioned, and he said they're not really asking for that either. I hope that helps. I called (215) 898-7507, if you want to ask them any more questions. Good luck!
Benjamin Franklin established the Union Fire Company, the Library Company of Philadelphia, the American Philosophical Society, Pennsylvania Hospital, and, of course, the charity school that evolved into the University of Pennsylvania. As they served the larger community of Philadelphia, each institution in turn formed its own community. I was reading the essay prompt for the University of Pennsylvania and I wasn't sure what it means by "academic communities." I'm pretty sure that "social communities" refers to clubs and organizations and such, but can academic communities include clubs, or is it referring to the different schools at Penn? I appreciate any help. Thank you! Which of the academic communities and social communities that now comprise the University of Pennsylvania are most interesting to you and how will you contribute to them and to the larger Penn community?
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Good question. Before reading this, I just assumed they meant one of the "the Union Fire Company, the Library Company of Philadelphia, the American Philosophical Society, Pennsylvania Hospital, and, of course, the charity school that evolved into the University of Pennsylvania" communities, but now you have placed some doubt in my head. But still I'm inclined to believe they mean one of them, and I think I will base my essay on one of them, probably like the American Philosophical Society because of my interest in philosophy, and just ramble about how great Penn's communities are and how much I could contribute to the Philosophical society. So in answer to your question, I think the academic communities include the things I put in quotes and maybe some other stuff. If you're really curious I would research it further, but if you just want to be able to write a good essay that answers what they're looking for I would just pick one of the communities in quotes and talk about it. The other essay prompt for UPenn was by farther the superior. "You have just completed your 300-page autobiography. Please submit page 217." When I first read that I was at first shocked, then laughed out loud, then seriously considered going to Penn. And that prompt remains one of my greatest reasons in considering Penn, lol. Sorry I don't know of how much help this was to you, but good luck!
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I've been wondering the same thing. I just called the Penn admissions office and asked if they could clarify the question, and he told me: What they really want to know is which aspects are most appealing that draw you to be interested in UPenn, and why are you a good fit for Penn (based on its academic and/or social community). He said that's what they asked in the past--basically, "Why Penn?"-- and we shouldn't stress over the terms they use like "academic and social communities." Really, just how is Penn good for you and how are you good for Penn; the question is a lot more complicated than what they want to know. I also asked if they want us to refer back to the "institutions" they mentioned, and he said they're not really asking for that either. I hope that helps. I called (215) 898-7507, if you want to ask them any more questions. Good luck!
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
What do I need to do in order to teach in California??? (I am certified to teach in PA)?
What do I need to do in order to teach in California??? (I am certified to teach in PA)?
I am a certified teacher in Pennsylvania and am employed by the School District of Philadelphia. I have taught for a year. However, now I am planning on relocating to San Diego, California. What EXACTLY do I have to do in order to teach there?? I am aware that I have to pass the CBEST exam, which I have already signed up for. Is it true that I have to take other courses to get my certification in California?????? Please help.. I am getting very stressed out!.
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How do I become a teacher in California? http://www.ctc.ca.gov/ http://www.cde.ca.gov/nr/ne/yr10/yr10rel30.asp
I am a certified teacher in Pennsylvania and am employed by the School District of Philadelphia. I have taught for a year. However, now I am planning on relocating to San Diego, California. What EXACTLY do I have to do in order to teach there?? I am aware that I have to pass the CBEST exam, which I have already signed up for. Is it true that I have to take other courses to get my certification in California?????? Please help.. I am getting very stressed out!.
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How do I become a teacher in California? http://www.ctc.ca.gov/ http://www.cde.ca.gov/nr/ne/yr10/yr10rel30.asp
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